Welcome to the Better Leaders Better Schools podcast.  This is a weekly show for ruckus makers — What is a ruckus maker?  A leader who has found freedom from the status quo. A leader looking to escape the old routine. A leader who never, ever gives up.

In this episode, Danny speaks with repeat guest, Mike Roberts who offers some words of wisdom about persistence, pursuing excellence, and leveraging success as a school leader. Mike shares his experiences running marathons, teaching 8th grade English, and presenting leadership lessons to other teachers.

We hope you enjoy the podcast. All the highlights, resources, and next steps can be found below. Listen to the full episode here and learn more at betterleadersbetterschools.com

Key Talking Points  

  • How Mike went from a weekend warrior to a marathon runner…starting with his failed first race
  • Why chasing micro-goals is a strategy for success
  • Why you don’t need to be great at everything, just 1% better to achieve more success in your life
  • Understanding the foundations in the student/teacher and teacher/principal relationship
  • Battling competition envy and reframing success to help you get 1% better
  • Ways to make your life as a teacher 1% better
  • Why we shouldn’t run away from failure…
  • The power of moving toward 1% better as a school and as an industry

Key Milestones of the Episodes

[4:28] Mike’s transformation from a man who couldn’t run one mile into an ultra marathoner

[9:41] Why Mike didn’t quit

[12:37] Getting 1% better

[18:15] Dealing with Comparison Envy

[26:47] You learn the most from difficult things

Key Quotes

Giving up is the easiest thing to do.”

I want you to look at me as a person who teaches and I’m going to look at you as a person who is a student “

“As educators, the more consistent we can be with who we are…the better off it is for our school community.”

“I don’t think next year is going to be easier than next year. I expect it to be tougher…but you build up those skills…along the way from the challenges.”


Key Resources 

Chasing Greatness: 26.2 Ways Teaching is Like Running a Marathon

Don’t forget to catch more episodes and resources at the Better Leaders Better Schools website.

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